So when you say 'Red Alliance is pretty much dead' do you mean to tell me that they have no sov and are breaking up? That would be surprising... they used to be one of the more powerful alliances. I find it hard to believe one war would do them in...

Wow. If I were a betting man I would be broke. I would not have thought there would be a significant war in null sec before winter. What brought this on? What sparked this big Delve shipstorm?

AND that's the downside of the the SOV system in eve. no reasons to not own SOV is 100's of empty systems you never use or defend. This is just a natural effect of that. The war will happen when they reach the real borders of the allaince. The rest is empty space, tech income. eve null sec warfare is wierd like that.

hopefully the winter expansion i hear has some changes to sov warfare to make it so you have a reason to own 40 systems, versus 300. You could strill moon mine in those systems and push your infulance into them by setting up POS and roams. But you shouldn't be able to get sov at such large levels. I think it's ok if the sov map in eve had large empty areas between players, that would MAKE SENSE.

SoCo's strategy of 'we'll take it back' relies on CFC+HB not actually, you know, filling that space with allies. Exactly like all the space we didn't fill elsewhere.

N. & S. Korea? Berlin Wall? no-man's-land will fill in between any hostile countries that don't have a MAD policy.

So, which pets allies get Delve?

EDIT: or are you just going to carve it up into little dachas / country cottages?

Yeah that's the point though, in eve you DO see a "no-man's-land between countries" it's just empty system after empty system. That's not what you see real counties doing in real life. People live in and use every area they can, unless it's unlivable. But in eve we don't have that problem.

The fact of the matter is that people just take systems without any intent to defend them, or use them. Because there is no downside to it. So it leaves all of 0.0 choked up and smaller alliances can't fill in the no mans land. If you had to actually defend and hold space to get that sweet sweet moon tech income, then eve could be an exciting battlefield in null sec again.

Basiclly saying , hey you need sov to mine moons. And then setting goals on how to take sov. basically require some build up and infrastructure before the map says "you own this space"

Then when you get more members you can expand your empire, and so on. Every system would be full of people, but empty systems would fall because you can't just passively gain sov in my dream version of eve online. you have to live in your space.

So what you are saying is they should nerf jump bridges and capital/super jump range. That would help not over extend themselves.

Do I detect some love loss between you guys and -A-? What happened? I live under a rock you see.